Very interesting conversation. Many thanks Roisin and Alessandra! The Human Rights Commission here in Australia is the chief weapon of preference against our lesbian community having single sex official gatherings, and against Sall Grover, trying to have a women's only app., and against any evidence based concern about "gender affirming care". International Human Rights thus has considerable clout Down Under (alas, a sad turn of phrase in this context). But we are more innovative than the UK as we got rid of biological sex from our Sex Descrimination Act in 2013, and replaced it with... gender-identity. So we are serious unable to talk about, let alone recognize, let alone defend, reality when it comes to sex.
Exactly the necessary conversation, Alessandra makes so many good points.
YES that the Maya Forstater case should have been about "non-belief" and the right to be a gender atheist. It's ridiculous that knowing humans are a sexual dimorphic species is "defended" as a "belief" and creates precedent elsewhere for suggesting we are allowed to be quite rude about men in women's washrooms but we can't kick them out.
That's where things are settling in Canada -- the policies are in force everywhere but they are not quite as hard on you as they were 5 years ago if you say "these policies are crazy". They are now like "oh yes well it's all very complicated and complicated conversations are good but these policies are not budging". Meaning if you call the cops on a man in a woman's washroom they come and say "oh well not our problem".
The idea that we have to push this back lawsuit by lawsuit: with what money? We need the whole public to understand this is intolerable and has to be undone.
Helen Joyce spoke at a Vancouver Women's Space event and I asked her a question about how Sex Matters is funded and her answer was quite cagey. I like Helen Joyce, I think she's brilliantly well-spoken, but... the idea that some entity that got its bucketloads of law fare money from ?????source??????? can deliver advice to feminists working in zero money contexts is laughable.
In Australia sex ( male / female) has been erased from law and there is no definition of man or women provided. Although in the federal law sport was highlighted as being divided by biology. ( which means the trans activists have done in Aus as they did all over the world they interpreted the law in their own favour even to the extent of ignoring that the Sex Discrimination Act when written gave provision for female sport category ). This happened because trans activists also took over the term female.
In each Aus state sex has been completely removed from state legislation and only gender identity remains. All women in Australia are women only due to identifying as one.
Most states now have self id laws as well as gender identity and it’s legal to change your sex once a year if you want to. That’s how insane the legal system and the human rights commissions are in Australia.
We are F’ d until Sall Grover goes to the high court to see if we can clarify that biology still remains in the federal law.
PS the only 2 women who were pushing the right legal process for this were Alessandra and KJK. All the others were scammed including Maya and Helen Joyce. Sex is a scientific fact it isn’t a belief. This was a total scam from the trans activists and the legal system.
Another good interview. Alessandra's point that the binary nature of sex is a fact (and not a belief) is powerful. In a way, we're all suffering the effects of people being undereducated in (or dishonest about) biology, for there is already a scientific consensus on whether sex is binary and immutable. How can that not settle the matter?
Very interesting conversation. Many thanks Roisin and Alessandra! The Human Rights Commission here in Australia is the chief weapon of preference against our lesbian community having single sex official gatherings, and against Sall Grover, trying to have a women's only app., and against any evidence based concern about "gender affirming care". International Human Rights thus has considerable clout Down Under (alas, a sad turn of phrase in this context). But we are more innovative than the UK as we got rid of biological sex from our Sex Descrimination Act in 2013, and replaced it with... gender-identity. So we are serious unable to talk about, let alone recognize, let alone defend, reality when it comes to sex.
"Non-Binary Niece Disorder". Brilliant, thank you! Looking forward to listening to this episode.
Love that too….
Exactly the necessary conversation, Alessandra makes so many good points.
YES that the Maya Forstater case should have been about "non-belief" and the right to be a gender atheist. It's ridiculous that knowing humans are a sexual dimorphic species is "defended" as a "belief" and creates precedent elsewhere for suggesting we are allowed to be quite rude about men in women's washrooms but we can't kick them out.
That's where things are settling in Canada -- the policies are in force everywhere but they are not quite as hard on you as they were 5 years ago if you say "these policies are crazy". They are now like "oh yes well it's all very complicated and complicated conversations are good but these policies are not budging". Meaning if you call the cops on a man in a woman's washroom they come and say "oh well not our problem".
The idea that we have to push this back lawsuit by lawsuit: with what money? We need the whole public to understand this is intolerable and has to be undone.
Helen Joyce spoke at a Vancouver Women's Space event and I asked her a question about how Sex Matters is funded and her answer was quite cagey. I like Helen Joyce, I think she's brilliantly well-spoken, but... the idea that some entity that got its bucketloads of law fare money from ?????source??????? can deliver advice to feminists working in zero money contexts is laughable.
Thank you for your commitment. Great conversation. Wishing you both well. Thanks again.
In Australia sex ( male / female) has been erased from law and there is no definition of man or women provided. Although in the federal law sport was highlighted as being divided by biology. ( which means the trans activists have done in Aus as they did all over the world they interpreted the law in their own favour even to the extent of ignoring that the Sex Discrimination Act when written gave provision for female sport category ). This happened because trans activists also took over the term female.
In each Aus state sex has been completely removed from state legislation and only gender identity remains. All women in Australia are women only due to identifying as one.
Most states now have self id laws as well as gender identity and it’s legal to change your sex once a year if you want to. That’s how insane the legal system and the human rights commissions are in Australia.
We are F’ d until Sall Grover goes to the high court to see if we can clarify that biology still remains in the federal law.
PS the only 2 women who were pushing the right legal process for this were Alessandra and KJK. All the others were scammed including Maya and Helen Joyce. Sex is a scientific fact it isn’t a belief. This was a total scam from the trans activists and the legal system.
Another good interview. Alessandra's point that the binary nature of sex is a fact (and not a belief) is powerful. In a way, we're all suffering the effects of people being undereducated in (or dishonest about) biology, for there is already a scientific consensus on whether sex is binary and immutable. How can that not settle the matter?
It’s too bad there isn’t video with this so we can see who is talking, or at least how many are speaking.